Huge far-right, white supremacist rallies scheduled to be held across Australia on August 31st (1 Viewer)

[SylviaB]

Yh i did say it was weird. But like it's what cultures do, yk. Like papua new guinea eating human brains is part of culture (although they mass-died at one point bc they caught prions...), that's kinda gross and cannibalistic, but its just who they are.

I mean, sometimes they do though, through direct cousins. I k some from pakistan that do that. But honestly, distant cousin marriage is bettee than direct sibling non-sense. Alabama's weird.

You haven't provided any evidence that sibling marriage is remotely common in alabama at all.

 

[SylviaB]

Nuh uh, l can't deal with stupid people.

Bye guys, enjoy dealing with a wannabe-famous yapper who thinks she's special.

I refuted everything you said, now you're getting angry and ragequiting. Pathetic.

 

[bigfatperson24677]

bro r u guys stupid? lol. drop extension math and english rn.

 

[academic_reaper]

I refuted everything you said, now you're getting angry and ragequiting. Pathetic.

? Bro, you brought up topics that had nothing to do with the thread or topic that we were talking about. You said stuff we all knew were true... Like get a job. Stop talking to children.

 

[academic_reaper]

You haven't provided any evidence that sibling marriage is remotely common in alabama at all.

Hop on tiktok, wasp. I didn't even bring this topic up.

 

[academic_reaper]

bro r u guys stupid? lol. drop extension math and english rn.

Nah, tell her to stop talking to kids.
Get. A. Job. ... PLEASE!

 

[academic_reaper]

Neither muslims nor arabs came remotely close to 'inventing maths'. Their accomplishments pale in comparison to Europeans, and today, as I pointed out, no muslim country on earth is exceptional at maths or science, and 56 muslim countries combined have no created a single university that does research that compares to the quantity and quality of Australian universities alone (let alone Europe, China and East Asia). You appeal to handful of people half a millenium ago to say that muslim countries today aren't backward.

Slavery is still extremely common in muslim countries. You said this is only an issue because white people complain about it. You're defending slavery.

I can't. What are you even saying bro? Have you heard of google?

Aight, here's a soln. Take this, and yap on tiktok about it.
I doubt anyone other than me is bothered replying to your nonsense.

 

[academic_reaper]

How come every muslim country just happens to have 'bad governments'? Meanwhile, almost every western european and east asian country has good governments?

Are muslims just really, really unlucky (despite apparently worshipping the one true god)?

Japan manages to have things to trade without having natural resources. Muslim countries without oil produce nothing of value to trade, and are therefore poor.

This sounds so stupid.. how did you even manage to say this IN PUBLIC?

 

[academic_reaper]

Yes, these countries aren't backward, they just kill people for being gay lol. Great argument.

Even Christians killed gays. Wth r u on about? https://www.hrc.org/resources/what-does-the-bible-say-about-homosexuality
Uganda does the same thing, and it's a christian-majority country.

Islam isn't the problem. Ppl with no life and no job like you are. Uneducated. Blind. Dyslexic. Pls go touch grass .

 

[Tony Stark]

How come every muslim country just happens to have 'bad governments'? Meanwhile, almost every western european and east asian country has good governments?

Are muslims just really, really unlucky (despite apparently worshipping the one true god)?

Japan manages to have things to trade without having natural resources. Muslim countries without oil produce nothing of value to trade, and are therefore poor.

I should not have to explain to you that there is corruption everywhere. In America, there is corruption. In China and Korea there is corruption. Same for Australia, Russia, e.t.c.

You certainly seem to have a great imagination when it comes to what you think we say. Or, perhaps, you are just delusional.

 

[academic_reaper]

Preach

 

[bigfatperson24677]

Nah, tell her to stop talking to kids.
Get. A. Job. ... PLEASE!

ur the stupid one here btw.

 

[academic_reaper]

ur the stupid one here btw.

You too, oldie.

 

[dan964]

It's a genocide. Who tf's side are you on? The victim or the abuser?

Palestinians are not innocent peaceful victims, they have historically instigated a lot of violence against the Jews as well; not to mention were the aggressors in this conflict.

Not to say that everything Israel does or says is great either. You could say both sides are set on the total annihilation of the other.

Similar to what happened in former Yugoslavia in the early 90s, but this is more worse, because these tensions have been brewing for almost 100 years.

 

[dan964]

real. Mods could easily ban Sylvia but the don't do shit because it falls under 'freedom of speech'

as a former mod, he has been banned in the past. but yes saying controversial views is not enough to gain an infraction usually, there is a line though, and he has crossed it from time to time.

 

[HazzRat]

My advice Sylvia, stop bitching about the world and pull yourself up. If you dont like something, do something about it.

 

[HazzRat]

Not sure I agree with everything you have said but this is so true. I love Australia it is a great country, but when you look at "culture" they dont have much. I live with an Aussie and it's whack seeing her side of the family in the wild - they go through life like earlobes, just dangling there. I look at my family and we are motivated and determined to do better and advance ourselves, it was drilled into us from a young age (that migrant mentality). Meanwhile, her family (mainly her mums side) have been living in a country town for generations and they just never advance. They have no desire to anything beyond menial work and every generation lives on "struggle street". Even living in a country town with few ethnics, so many of these white Aussies are the same - they just exist. They dont have that "winning" ethnic mentality. Also, they have no culture - you should see what they eat for goodness sake (chuck some frozen veg in the oven). What can I say though, when it comes to creating a functioning civil society they do it better...it's a mystery to me. Love them though, such nice people.

I swear, Ive spent time with a lot of ethnics in my younger years but spending time with Aussies is the biggest culture shock. That's why when these NSN guys go on about protecting white culture Im like, what culture? A passion-less and flavourless existence.

This is a late reply, but I've been catching up with messages after a holiday break. First of all, I vehemently disagree with Sylvia's reply to this. Second, I do want to defend Aussie culture (for lack of a better term, when I say Aussie I mean Australians with a migrant background longer than two generations - this is not to say recent migrants are not Aussie).

The point I'd like to make is that the context in which you've witnessed Aussie culture is important. This is because, regardless of culture, those with a distant migrant background or no migrant background tend to have the vibe of being settled down and carefree. Meanwhile, those of a recent migrant background, again regardless of culture, have a hunger for success that motivates them to do well. So migration patterns are a bit like one's career. The first generation is like a strapping young graduate out to hustle for opportunities. The second generation is the rising manager in the firm, ready to take on a bigger load. And by the time you reach the third generation, they've settled down and are ready to appreciate the finer things in life.

In other words, this pattern is not unique to Australia. If you look at somewhere like Northern England or Southern Italy, the pattern is the same in that the non-migrant population is more settled and less aspirational. E.g., Northern England is full of bald, Guinness-guzzling, soccer-obsessed Brexit-geezers. E.g., Southern Italy is full of unemployed, siesta-taking, soccer-obsessed dole-bludgers. Likewise, you could characterise Aussies as Footy-addicts, wherever they stand in the Barassi line, mullet-wearers, and education-avoidant bogans. Another example is that Latin Americans in Latin America tend not to work that hard, whereas the ones who've migrated to the USA work their balls off.

So I don't think it's Aussie culture itself that appears to be bland and aspirationless. It's more the context in which you've experienced it, being that of the non-migrant culture of a Western country. In that vein, it's also true that Australian expats punch above their weight overseas. E.g., Australians in the USA have the second-highest household income of all nationalities (second to Indians). Australian expats tend to be corporate ballers who thrive in places like Singapore, London, or America. So it's a similar phenomenon to when you see migrants in Australia appearing much more industrious than the locals. There's nothing unique about Aussies themselves that makes them so flavourless, it's just the context in which you're seeing them.

 

[Legendary16]

This is a late reply, but I've been catching up with messages after a holiday break. First of all, I vehemently disagree with Sylvia's reply to this. Second, I do want to defend Aussie culture (for lack of a better term, when I say Aussie I mean Australians with a migrant background longer than two generations - this is not to say recent migrants are not Aussie).

The point I'd like to make is that the context in which you've witnessed Aussie culture is important. This is because, regardless of culture, those with a distant migrant background or no migrant background tend to have the vibe of being settled down and carefree. Meanwhile, those of a recent migrant background, again regardless of culture, have a hunger for success that motivates them to do well. So migration patterns are a bit like one's career. The first generation is like a strapping young graduate out to hustle for opportunities. The second generation is the rising manager in the firm, ready to take on a bigger load. And by the time you reach the third generation, they've settled down and are ready to appreciate the finer things in life.

In other words, this pattern is not unique to Australia. If you look at somewhere like Northern England or Southern Italy, the pattern is the same in that the non-migrant population is more settled and less aspirational. E.g., Northern England is full of bald, Guinness-guzzling, soccer-obsessed Brexit-geezers. E.g., Southern Italy is full of unemployed, siesta-taking, soccer-obsessed dole-bludgers. Likewise, you could characterise Aussies as Footy-addicts, wherever they stand in the Barassi line, mullet-wearers, and education-avoidant bogans. Another example is that Latin Americans in Latin America tend not to work that hard, whereas the ones who've migrated to the USA work their balls off.

So I don't think it's Aussie culture itself that appears to be bland and aspirationless. It's more the context in which you've experienced it, being that of the non-migrant culture of a Western country. In that vein, it's also true that Australian expats punch above their weight overseas. E.g., Australians in the USA have the second-highest household income of all nationalities (second to Indians). Australian expats tend to be corporate ballers who thrive in places like Singapore, London, or America. So it's a similar phenomenon to when you see migrants in Australia appearing much more industrious than the locals. There's nothing unique about Aussies themselves that makes them so flavourless, it's just the context in which you're seeing them.

I really appreciate your take on this, and as a migrant myself I can see how with opportunities in a new country, I am inclined to push for a more comfortable life for myself and my family in the future. This would also be the case with many other migrants or international kids who want to take their opportunities in Australia, though I will say that I can't stand when some disregard the local culture here or heavily impose their own without trying to adapt. I guess that even for the local Australians, while a few generations of relatively comfortable living with a family home (or few) and minimal long-term payments make many a bit lax with ambitions, there are always exceptions with achievers who seem lesser in numbers compared to migrants with the same attitude. When it comes to the culture as well, it could be attributed to the relative novelty of White Australians living in the country and that shift from a largely British culture to the cultural icons that characterise Australia today.

 

[HazzRat]

A response to 'Australians have no culture'
Looking back at past messages, I've noticed a lot of 'Australia has no culture' sentiment. I would like to clarify why I don't think this is the case.

First of all, a lot of the rationale behind this sentiment is that people just think 'oh, Australia is an English-speaking, individualistic, capitalist country... so we're no different from America'. However, when trying to charactise the culture of a society, it's important to figure out the point of reference by which you're distinguishing it from other cultures. So, compared to America, it could be argued that Australian culture is quite similar (although disagreeable), but compared to North Korean culture, we're definitely worlds apart.

So let me go over why I think Australian culture is hard to characterise. To do this, I need to go over why North Korean culture is easy to characterise. Basically, there are some things that make a culture much more identifiable. The first, I'd argue, is homogeneity. Australia is a very diverse country with many different subcultures and backgrounds embedded within it. On the other hand, North Koreans all share the same lineage and language, and have been confined to the same borders since the Cold War. The second is whether it's top-down or bottom-up. Australian culture is very low-brow and has mass appeal. This makes it bottom-up, meaning it is something not prescribed. On the other hand, North Korean culture is literally a set of values, such as Juche, established by the Communist Party. Lastly, among others, is the point of reference by which you use to describe the culture. North Korean culture is alien to the majority of cultures, making it very easy for people to distinguish. Compared to other cultures, Australian culture shares a lot of similarities, such as democracy, Enlightenment ideals, the family unit, individualism, constitutionalism, etc, making it appear same-y. It's like a fish doesn't realise it's surrounded by water.

Hence, due to our culture's diversity, structure, and similarity to other cultures, it is generally hard to define. When people do try to define it, particularly English teachers, they tend to use abstract words such as 'fair go', 'mateship', and 'tall poppy syndrome', which are still not universal or easily definable values. Let's just say that the concept of a 'fair go' means a very different thing to Liberal politicians than Labor politicians.

In my opinion, the reason Australian culture is not easily definable is that it is a broad umbrella that hovers above many different subcultures. So a better word for 'Australian culture' is 'Australian mainstream culture'. And below that umbrella are subcultures such as Anglo-Australian culture (the culture most people think of when they think 'Australian culture'), Aboriginal culture, Asian-Australian culture, Arab-Australian culture, Elite Australian culture (think private schools and Rugby Union), etc. It's much easier to characterise Australian culture when you go into the country, which is mostly uniform Anglo-Australian culture. In the country, Footy is lionised, Clubs are frequented, Pokies are gambled at, MAFS is binged, and philistinism is common. Meanwhile, it is harder to find common ground in the big cities such as Sydney, which contain such a diversity of economic, ethnic, and cultural backgrounds.

To demonstrate this, I have made a diagram of the broad umbrella of mainstream Australian culture sitting above the different subcultures.

Mainstream Australian Culture​ Footy such as AFL and NRL​ Clubs such as RSLs​ Shit reality TV such as MAFS​ All the shit on channel 9​ Self-depricating political commentary such as FriendlyJordies​ Food is anything served at a Club, so Steak, Schnitty, Fish and Chips, Pizza, Pasta, mainstream Asian foods e.g. Dumplings​

Anglo-Australian culture More or less mainstream culture, but more accentuated More emphasis on tattoos, Bali, vapes, trades, and more likely to live rural

Aboriginal-Australian culture Kinship, dreamtime stories, connection to land, etc

Asian-Australian culture Watches any sport but the local ones, most likely Prem or NBA Selective school culture Family orientated Connection to home country Drives a BMW

Arab-Australian culture Footy or soccer Family oriented Says 'bro' a lot Alhamdulillah for inventing snack packs

Elite-Australian culture Rugby union or niche sports like fencing GPS level private school Values education as a means to an end RM Williams Went on a rugby tour to New Zealand Skis in Niseko or Europe Gets a posh mullet with the sides cut off but no rat tail

Therefore, once you accept that Australian culture is not a homogeneous thing, but a collection of mainstream media, attitudes, and etiquette, formed by and for the masses, it is much easier to accept that Australian culture exists all around us.

To get an idea of the mainstream, I've provided a collage below. This is because it's easier to identify what is and isn't Australian culture, than to define Australian culture as a whole.