The war in Gaza has finished. Should pro-Palestine protests be cancelled and pro-Palestine activist groups finally disband? (1 Viewer)

[imgonnascream]

I'm just applying interdice's justification for 1,400 years of Islamic imperialism. Something I note you are not condemning, because again, you're not against "imperialism", you're against "white" people.

I do not need to condemn Islamic colonisation when replying to your "justification"; the logic still stands, and the fact that you're trying to defend it says more about you than it does about me. I'm Lebanese Catholic, so I can go on and on about Islamic imperialism, but attacking Islamic imperialism does not justify using imperialist language yourself. That's just hypocritical.

 

[Interdice]

I think you mean, jewish refugees immigrated to Palestine, and the Palestinians were xenophobic bigots who oppressed them and the jews defended themselves.

The Jews were guests, and the Palestians were being nice orginally, saving them from Hitler. They had no rights to stay, Palestine could have demanded the daughters as their slaves for payment if they wished.

This is why nobody in history likes the Jews.

They were probably doing shady shit in Germany between 1800 and 1939, cause you don't kill 6 million people for no reason. In America they have Jew clubs, and do DEi for each other. Even in India, they open Jew only restaurants, and don't let Indians in.

 

[imgonnascream]

Okay, then that proves I'm right that arabs are gay

No, anyone can be gay there are gay people everywhere. You said that arabs have extremist laws about gay people

No arabs are gay. The fact that arabs have the most anti-gay laws and cultural norms in the world makes perfect sense for a population with no gay people in

THIS is what I was refuting, for someone who graduated in 2021, you might want to try reading what people are replying to or at least having consistent claims/arguments

 

[Interdice]

No, anyone can be gay there are gay people everywhere. You said that arabs have extremist laws about gay people

THIS is what I was refuting, for someone who graduated in 2021, you might want to try reading what people are replying to or at least having consistent claims/arguments

He didn't grad in 2021. Like 2009 or something i think.

 

[Interdice]

Why do you support homosexuals being oppressed?

You don't give one shit about the homosexuals lol

And i support homosexuals being oppressed, because that's just what we do, with people like them

 

[bigfatperson24677]

Eventually USA will grow weak(happening as we speak) and the Arabs will be able to liberate Palestine(entire)

The USA won't be falling apart anytime soon lol. And none of the arabs are 'liberating' Israel. They couldn't do it twice, what makes you think they have a chance on the third go?

 

[Interdice]

The USA won't be falling apart anytime soon lol. And none of the arabs are 'liberating' Israel. They couldn't do it twice, what makes you think they have a chance on the third go?

Their GDP PPP has fallen from 1st to 2nd to China, GDP will soon follow. Their empire is falling. Austarlia, Japan and Europe are all becoming poorer.

The Jews had the supporters of the colonial empires and the opposition were colonized. This time it will be a fair fight. Just the Jews and the Arabs, and the Jews can finally be sent back to where they came from.

 

[bigfatperson24677]

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Their GDP PPP has fallen from 1st to 2nd to China, GDP will soon follow. Their empire is falling. Austarlia, Japan and Europe are all becoming poorer.

The Jews had the supporters of the colonial empires and the opposition were colonized. This time it will be a fair fight. Just the Jews and the Arabs, and the Jews can finally be sent back to where they came from.

This is the stupidest, delusional left-wing, statement i've heard. please don't participate in debates.

 

[Interdice]

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This is the stupidest, delusional left-wing, statement i've heard. please don't participate in debates.

Every country got rid of their colonial masters, even it it took 100 years.

I fail to see why the Arabs can't rid themselves of their European curse, promised 3000 years ago,

And America has fallen ALOT. In 1950, they were the only developed country, now they've got competition. Every empire falls, America will eventually, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but when that happens, Palestine will be liberated, and the Europeans of Israel will be expelled

 

[bigfatperson24677]

Every country got rid of their colonial masters, even it it took 100 years.

I fail to see why the Arabs can't rid themselves of their European curse, promised 3000 years ago,

And America has fallen ALOT. In 1950, they were the only developed country, now they've got competition. Every empire falls, America will eventually, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but when that happens, Palestine will be liberated, and the Europeans of Israel will be expelled

Nope. The USA never fell, only became stronger, other countries just caught up - and yet the USA remains the strongest (why do you think every other western country is reliant on American technology for their own militaries?) and has the ability to destroy every other country, including china (American defence is much more capable and advanced than Chinese tech). and you are greatly underestimating israel, acting like it's completely dependent on the United States for survival. Israel is stronger than any other arab country seeing how the arabs have yet to develop further than homes made out of mud.

 

[Interdice]

The USA never fell, only became stronger, other countries just caught up

No country has caught up to the United States. Even China's only an economic/scientific competitor, not a cultural or militaristic one. India's far behind, and Europe is an American vassal, that's only going more backwards day by day.

But they used to have a MUCH larger gap. They used to be the only developed country. Everything worldwide used to revolve around them. Now there are rupees for oil deals, China backdoor deals and a lack of respect for American hegemony. Many countries, such as India/China, are tanking/fighting the Americans on tariffs, instead of suing for peace.

America won't be a leader forever.

china (American defence is much more capable and advanced than Chinese tech).

Fully agree. But for how long? Chinese tech is advancing fast. I hear they're now on 7nm(2020), India's approaching 28nm(2010).

America is only half a generation ahead of China in tech at this point, maybe 10-15 years. America has the advantage in terms of scale of production, and testing, but with time China will get those too.

has the ability to destroy every other country

Even without nukes, America would fall, without China imports.

And India is doing fine enough with 50 percent tariffs.

Israel is stronger than any other arab country seeing how the arabs have yet to develop further than homes made out of mud.

Saudi/UAE are more advanced/richer than Australia. But it's 7 million Jews vs 200+ million Arabs, some rich, some poor. WIthout a strong American support, I'm not confident Israel will win.

Israel existence is tied to America's, whether you like it or not. Next time Israel fights a fair war with Arabia, they will lose, they will all be killed.

 

[Anononthehunt]

Not to get involved in this mess of a debate but I'm pretty sure Palestine hasn't actually been given back their land yet, thus the pro-palestine protesters will not (and should not) disband. The solution to the complex issue of Palestinian sovereignty isn't an overnight fix ((and honestly, it's not something I think America should have any stake in? Why not get some small Balkan/neutral country with no skin in the game to hash out peace processes... or drag Britain back in to fix at least one of their historical can of worms)).

Edit: Additionally I don't love the conflation of the entirety of Judaism as a religion with Israel? It never made sense to me tbh, no religion or group is a monolith despite what a lot of media claims. Yes you've got some rotten apples, but overall Jewish people are .. literally just that. A complex religion. People are way too quick to make it into an 'us vs them' situation ... and keep in mind trees have begun emitting carbon in Queensland and they found mosquitoes in iceland

 

[SylviaB]

I do not need to condemn Islamic colonisation when replying to your "justification"; the logic still stands, and the fact that you're trying to defend it says more about you than it does about me. I'm Lebanese Catholic, so I can go on and on about Islamic imperialism, but attacking Islamic imperialism does not justify using imperialist language yourself. That's just hypocritical.

Interdice is the one justifying imperialism while crying about Israel

 

[Interdice]

Interdice is the one justifying imperialism while crying about Israel

I'm advocating to the return of Israel to it's rightful owners.

A white AshkeNAZI could never own Israel.

Only reason they were sent to Israel, is cause Jews are such unlikable people, that even their home EUorpe didn't like them. Kept the Roma, didn't keep the Jews. No one in Europe gave a shit that germany was killing the Jews, only cared, cause European nations were being invaded by them.

It's time the Jews return to their land, and apologize to the Europeans, for what they did wrong, and pay reparation.

 

[SylviaB]

Jews won't have an army, when the Americans dump them. Then the Arabs can take all of Israel, and sell/extort the Jews to Europe.

LOL Israel have a bigger domestic military industry than most of the rest of the middle east combined

And most middle eastern countries depend on the west for most of their military equipment

If the west stopped exporting military equipment to the middle east, Israel would grow in strength relative to the rest of the region

 

[SylviaB]

I'm advocating to the return of Israel to it's rightful owners.

A white AshkeNAZI could never own Israel.

Only reason they were sent to Israel, is cause Jews are such unlikable people, that even their home EUorpe didn't like them. Kept the Roma, didn't keep the Jews. No one in Europe gave a shit that germany was killing the Jews, only cared, cause European nations were being invaded by them.

It's time the Jews return to their land, and apologize to the Europeans, for what they did wrong, and pay reparation.

When are muslims going to apologize for 1400 years of imperialism and pay reparations?

 

[SylviaB]

No, anyone can be gay there are gay people everywhere. You said that arabs have extremist laws about gay people

Interdice and tony stark said there's no gay arabs.

I'm saying that a population without gays wouldn't need to repress gayness so hard.

 

[SylviaB]

Not to get involved in this mess of a debate but I'm pretty sure Palestine hasn't actually been given back their land yet, thus the pro-palestine protesters will not (and should not) disband. The solution to the complex issue of Palestinian sovereignty isn't an overnight fix ((and honestly, it's not something I think America should have any stake in? Why not get some small Balkan/neutral country with no skin in the game to hash out peace processes... or drag Britain back in to fix at least one of their historical can of worms)).

So you agree these communist morons in australia should stop protesting every five minutes

Also "small balkan nation"? Nigga what??

Kosovo: Israel gief land bak to palestine plzzz.........

Israel:

 

[Interdice]

Interdice and tony stark said there's no gay arabs.

I'm saying that a population without gays wouldn't need to repress gayness so hard.

No PROUD gay arabs thanks to those laws. Gay Arabs are rightfully oppresssed, and can't do their gay activities. Close enough

 

[Interdice]

So you agree these communist morons in australia should stop protesting every five minutes

Unironically yes. We don't even live in USA, which is funding the war. Those fuckers need to get a job. I just like arguing tbh. I don't have any stakes in this war