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a film is a completely valid text. films are good because form is implicit in analysis and also signifies contextual evolutions. be sure to use FILM techniques as opposed to analysing the things that characters say... because that detracts from discussion of form
Also it can’t be any prescribed texts from standard, adv, or ext even if your class isn’t studying it. For example it’s best to avoid the truman show, bright star and lost in translation
 

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Does anyone know what a state rank mark would be for ext 1? Like what raw mark and what aligned mark?
Probably a 48-50/50. I saw an interview with a girl who got a state rank and she got a 50/50 and was 4th or something, although she might have had a lower internal rank which would have affected it.
 
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Something I never understood is how many examples are we actually supposed to include for Section II? My teacher always banged on about how it wasn't about the technique-analysis loop that Adv is so hung up on but I don't actually know what that translates to😭
 

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Something I never understood is how many examples are we actually supposed to include for Section II? My teacher always banged on about how it wasn't about the technique-analysis loop that Adv is so hung up on but I don't actually know what that translates to😭
This is how my teacher explained it, he called it the funnel method
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Something I never understood is how many examples are we actually supposed to include for Section II? My teacher always banged on about how it wasn't about the technique-analysis loop that Adv is so hung up on but I don't actually know what that translates to😭
Your teacher is right, but it still helps to have a good structure to fall back on. I think since there’s 3 texts, doing an integrated structure with three paragraphs in this form is probably best in order to balance analysis with evidence:

BP1:
T1
T2
T3

Then repeat that with the other 3 paragraphs, ensuring you include structural evidence as well at least once per text besides the quotes. And know that you can easily deviate from this and it’s not rigid, set in stone.
 

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Your teacher is right, but it still helps to have a good structure to fall back on. I think since there’s 3 texts, doing an integrated structure with three paragraphs in this form is probably best in order to balance analysis with evidence:

BP1:
T1
T2
T3

Then repeat that with the other 3 paragraphs, ensuring you include structural evidence as well at least once per text besides the quotes. And know that you can easily deviate from this and it’s not rigid, set in stone.
I did a basic text1/text2/text 3 body paragraph structure which actually worked quite well. Some people in my class compared two texts at once per paragraph (so Texts 1&2, 1&3 then 2&3 for example) you can be creative with it (but I would definitely not change to the partially integrated structure this close to the exam)
 

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Those structures are good!
But don't forget to focus on context more than you would with adv eng.
Apparently markers view a high marked response as one which can talk deeply on context, but the entirety of the essay still flows!

Also how many lit crit quotes would you guys recommend in an essay/ a paragraph? I do one per para, but I know some people do more & I'm a bit curious.
 

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Those structures are good!
But don't forget to focus on context more than you would with adv eng.
Apparently markers view a high marked response as one which can talk deeply on context, but the entirety of the essay still flows!

Also how many lit crit quotes would you guys recommend in an essay/ a paragraph? I do one per para, but I know some people do more & I'm a bit curious.
I think once per paragraph is a good middle ground. That's what I do. I've always been told that literary quotes should be used sparingly and only to support your response. That is, you shouldn't be using them as your ideas, but use them to show the marker that what you're saying is actually true since critic blah blah also agrees with it.

That being said, it's always nice to drive your ideas using literary theories as well. For example I'm doing literary mindscapes and I talk a bit about Sigmund Freud's concepts throughout my essay.
 

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how are y'all preparing for section I bc i feel like it could be literally anything so idk what to do. also do people have like base imaginative/ discursives or a base essay for section I?
 

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Those structures are good!
But don't forget to focus on context more than you would with adv eng.
Apparently markers view a high marked response as one which can talk deeply on context, but the entirety of the essay still flows!

Also how many lit crit quotes would you guys recommend in an essay/ a paragraph? I do one per para, but I know some people do more & I'm a bit curious.
Yes for sure, and it’s best to sprinkle it throughout your essay and relate ALL of it to your arguments - don’t just randomly say that “Romantics exalted natural beauty and childlike innocence, repudiating the relentless industrialisation accompanying the Industrial Revolution” without relating it to your text/argument
 

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I think once per paragraph is a good middle ground. That's what I do. I've always been told that literary quotes should be used sparingly and only to support your response. That is, you shouldn't be using them as your ideas, but use them to show the marker that what you're saying is actually true since critic blah blah also agrees with it.

That being said, it's always nice to drive your ideas using literary theories as well. For example I'm doing literary mindscapes and I talk a bit about Sigmund Freud's concepts throughout my essay.
Nice, what texts? I did hamlet, dickinson and lost in translation, I loved the unit to be honest and I’ve seen some freudian psychoanalysis based responses to hamlet which were really interesting (but wacky)
 

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how are y'all preparing for section I bc i feel like it could be literally anything so idk what to do. also do people have like base imaginative/ discursives or a base essay for section I?
Have some settings, plots and characters in hand for the day, though they could easily ask for discursive or persuasives as well (that’s what happened in my trial paper). So for example, maybe you’ve written about the beach in one of your pieces from ext, adv or before senior years, so you can touch on it in the exam (taking into account any feedback you got of course). I created a table of settings, plots and characters which allowed to mix and match! If you don’t want to do this much effort then just organise all of your pieces into a folder/portfolio and think about how you could use aspects from one/more texts to answer a question.
Do some practice questions! Definitely the most important.
Trust your writing skills on the day - if you’re in ext english, it’s because you’re good at writing and because you enjoy it enough.
That’s pretty much everything! Don’t stress, although I know from experience that’s much easier said than done lol
 

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Nice, what texts? I did hamlet, dickinson and lost in translation, I loved the unit to be honest and I’ve seen some freudian psychoanalysis based responses to hamlet which were really interesting (but wacky)
I also did Hamlet and Dickinson as prescribed texts! I chose The mark on the wall by virgina woolf as my related though, but honestly this unit heavily related with a lot of other really interesting texts as well, it was quite hard to choose.
 

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how are y'all preparing for section I bc i feel like it could be literally anything so idk what to do. also do people have like base imaginative/ discursives or a base essay for section I?
I've personally got both a prepared discursive and imaginative which are basically my advanced pieces but elevated to extension level. And then I have a general plan of characters and plots for in case they give a weirdly specific stimulus. Other than that I still need to practice writing critically on the spot cause I've never once done that before...

Also does anyone know, if they ask to write a creative piece, it means you can do both imaginative or discursive right?
 

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I also did Hamlet and Dickinson as prescribed texts! I chose The mark on the wall by virgina woolf as my related though, but honestly this unit heavily related with a lot of other really interesting texts as well, it was quite hard to choose.
Yeah this is probably one of the best units imo I’m glad I got to do mindscapes. My related text was one of Frida Kahlo’s artworks, there’s so much analysis gold there and it was genuinely interesting stuff. Her art is so visceral yet deep, reminiscent of how much she went through.
 

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I've personally got both a prepared discursive and imaginative which are basically my advanced pieces but elevated to extension level. And then I have a general plan of characters and plots for in case they give a weirdly specific stimulus. Other than that I still need to practice writing critically on the spot cause I've never once done that before...

Also does anyone know, if they ask to write a creative piece, it means you can do both imaginative or discursive right?
They will specify
 

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If section 1 is a critical, what literary theory should we incorporate? I feel like my teacher barely taught me literary worlds. We went through mimesis and and reader-writer or something but idk.
 

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Whichever you think fits your work/the question! Unless it specifies.

For example you might use the post-structuralism somehow if it the prompt involves something about its ideas.

There are a ton of literary theories out there, so definitely familiarise yourself with the main ones like psychoanalysis, marxism and feminism. Then touch on any of them.
It’s hard to answer this question, because we never know which one might fit the most, unfortunately.
 

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