Huge far-right, white supremacist rallies scheduled to be held across Australia on August 31st (2 Viewers)

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SylviaB

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i think we're dragging this debate ngl
What debate? A debate would be you responding to my arguments. Instead, you ignore everything I say and call me a "bigot"

You claim that africans are being attacked in australia, and when I point out that its africans doing the attacking, you lose your mind and call me "racist"

You claim europeans are evil for slavery, but then I point out that muslims have a more extensive history of slavery than europeans that continues to this day, you call me a "bigot"

You claim that immigrants are smarter than white australians, and then you call me "racist" for disagreeing

You claim that Indians are more academically capable than white people, and when I point that Indians are one of the worst countries in the world academically, you call me "bigoted"

You're not debating, you're hysterically screeching about how much you hate white people and how much they owe you for being brown
 

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okay so the solution is for australiais to be more like china. okay got it
Would that be a bad thing? Are you saying there's something wrong with China?

Chinese in Australia literally turned away from the liberals because ScoMo criticised china, but at the same time, they would be angry if australia acted more like china. Completely moronic.
 

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Would that be a bad thing? Are you saying there's something wrong with China?

Chinese in Australia literally turned away from the liberals because ScoMo criticised china, but at the same time, they would be angry if australia acted more like china. Completely moronic.
okay so its not a bad thing for australia to be more like china but chinese ppl are moronic for not wanting australia to be like china. okay got it.
 

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okay so its not a bad thing for australia to be more like china but chinese ppl are moronic for not wanting australia to be like china. okay got it.
im saying if being more like china is a bad thing, then maybe you should be critical of china itself

but you people never fucking are lol

instead you call people 'racist' for criticising it
 

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What debate? A debate would be you responding to my arguments. Instead, you ignore everything I say and call me a "bigot"

You claim that africans are being attacked in australia, and when I point out that its africans doing the attacking, you lose your mind and call me "racist"

You claim europeans are evil for slavery, but then I point out that muslims have a more extensive history of slavery than europeans that continues to this day, you call me a "bigot"

You claim that immigrants are smarter than white australians, and then you call me "racist" for disagreeing

You claim that Indians are more academically capable than white people, and when I point that Indians are one of the worst countries in the world academically, you call me "bigoted"

You're not debating, you're hysterically screeching about how much you hate white people and how much they owe you for being brown
Brother your arguments are based on nothing but just pure statements. Except for the international student demographics, you haven't given me any other number to prove your statements such as africans are attacking white people, muslims killed more slaves, etc. Also, Australian society has always been so much more different than China. It cannot transform into China. Countries like India and China have a "work, work, work" mentality, whereas Aussies have a more laid back culture. And now these people complain that immigrants are doing jobs here. Your culture never had that mentality of working hard. You forced Aboriginals to work in cane fields, and same as the Islanders. Other Europeans and the Chinese came during the gold rush doing more work. Afghans were brought to assist in navigating through remote Australia. Indians were brought to Islands like Fiji to do hard labour. You forced Aboriginals to participate in the World Wars and then you deny them entry. You tried to wipe the heritage of the Indigenous through assimilation. The point of immigration in colonised countries is to do work which you all are not willing to, and now you complain about that???

The actual problem is achieving sustainable immigration not a permanent ban. China is self-sufficient, but the only reason immigrants come here is that there is way more competition in their countries due to larger problems. Here, they can thrive. Australia has never been self-sufficient. Take immigration out and you are going into a depression. The Australian population is ageing, and people are not making that many babies. Who is coming to save the day? Immigrants, because they are on average younger, and hence get more jobs than oldheads. In China, stricter immigration population is important because its population is 53 TIMES bigger than Australia's population and immigration would only cause more problems than improve economic growth. You can never compare China and Australia on the same scale. Different government and different demographics.

So, should immigration be reduced? Yes, for easing cost of living. But should they be banned? Absolutely not, otherwise Australia crumbles.

Also, to address your previous point on why immigrants move to white nations when they are "superior" (which I didn't even say) is because the point of European colonisation was to exploit resources and people to boost Europe. If western colonisation and influence never occurred, India, China and many African and Middle Eastern countries would be far better. You loot the East's resources and now you complain that they are coming to you. Isn't that hypocritical?

So its completely reasonable for calling you bigoted because you're just throwing statements at me about how white people are innocent and others are not, when both sides have done horrible things. And the reason the white people are hated more is because they have committed larger atrocities on a global scale than the Muslims ever did. Again, don't justify one's actions.

Today is supposed to be a period where whites, blacks, hispanics, indians, muslims, christians and whatnot are on an equal ground. I don't hate white people. I'm just saying that bringing back Neo-Nazi ideas and this superiority complex is outdated and stupid. If you're defending that you are bigoted.
 
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I've backed up everything I've said with facts. In response, people ignore everything I said and call me names and get offended like the pathetic karens they are.
You're the karen... but sure, go call others karen's too. Facts? Hmm... debatable tbh.
 
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Brother your arguments are based on nothing but just pure statements. Except for the international student demographics, you haven't given me any other number to prove your statements such as africans are attacking white people, muslims killed more slaves, etc. Also, Australian society has always been so much more different than China. It cannot transform into China. Countries like India and China have a "work, work, work" mentality, whereas Aussies have a more laid back culture. And now these people complain that immigrants are doing jobs here. Your culture never had that mentality of working hard. You forced Aboriginals to work in cane fields, and same as the Islanders. Other Europeans and the Chinese came during the gold rush doing more work. Afghans were brought to assist in navigating through remote Australia. Indians were brought to Islands like Fiji to do hard labour. You forced Aboriginals to participate in the World Wars and then you deny them entry. You tried to wipe the heritage of the Indigenous through assimilation. The point of immigration in colonised countries is to do work which you all are not willing to, and now you complain about that???

The actual problem is achieving sustainable immigration not a permanent ban. China is self-sufficient, but the only reason immigrants come here is that there is way more competition in their countries due to larger problems. Here, they can thrive. Australia has never been self-sufficient. Take immigration out and you are going into a depression. The Australian population is ageing, and people are not making that many babies. Who is coming to save the day? Immigrants, because they are on average younger, and hence get more jobs than oldheads. In China, stricter immigration population is important because its population is 53 TIMES bigger than Australia's population and immigration would only cause more problems than improve economic growth. You can never compare China and Australia on the same scale. Different government and different demographics.

So, should immigration be reduced? Yes, for easing cost of living. But should they be banned? Absolutely not, otherwise Australia crumbles.

Also, to address your previous point on why immigrants move to white nations when they are "superior" (which I didn't even say) is because the point of European colonisation was to exploit resources and people to boost Europe. If western colonisation and influence never occurred, India, China and many African and Middle Eastern countries would be far better. You loot the East's resources and now you complain that they are coming to you. Isn't that hypocritical?

So its completely reasonable for calling you bigoted because you're just throwing statements at me about how white people are innocent and others are not, when both sides have done horrible things. And the reason the white people are hated more is because they have committed larger atrocities on a global scale than the Muslims ever did. Again, don't justify one's actions.

Today is supposed to be a period where whites, blacks, hispanics, indians, muslims, christians and whatnot are on an equal ground. I don't hate white people. I'm just saying that bringing back Neo-Nazi ideas and this superiority complex is outdated and stupid. If you're defending that you are bigoted.
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im saying if being more like china is a bad thing, then maybe you should be critical of china itself

but you people never fucking are lol

instead you call people 'racist' for criticising it
Girl, you need to chill out. Like l get it we are hurting your feelings, just because we embody qualities called "humanism", but still. Calm down a bit.
 
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Like idk if you haven't realised this, but majority are opposing your views. Unless you point a gun at our heads, we most likely won't change our beliefs in this matter.
Please respect everyone's opinion. This message is mostly for @SylviaB but applies to everyone as well.
 
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What debate? A debate would be you responding to my arguments. Instead, you ignore everything I say and call me a "bigot"

You claim that africans are being attacked in australia, and when I point out that its africans doing the attacking, you lose your mind and call me "racist"

You claim europeans are evil for slavery, but then I point out that muslims have a more extensive history of slavery than europeans that continues to this day, you call me a "bigot"

You claim that immigrants are smarter than white australians, and then you call me "racist" for disagreeing

You claim that Indians are more academically capable than white people, and when I point that Indians are one of the worst countries in the world academically, you call me "bigoted"

You're not debating, you're hysterically screeching about how much you hate white people and how much they owe you for being brown
Your claims make no sense... Like ofc ppl would be ignoring it then. 🤷‍♀️
 

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My reading and writing skills literally put me ahead of the vast majority of indians

Indians scored one of the worst in the world, and yet this bozo is acting like they're a country of geniuses with "higher standards" than Australia

And religion is relevant. This guy is calling europeans evil for their actions, but would never ever calls muslims evil for the exact same actions.

Europeans literally get more criticism for slavery centuries ago than muslims do for slavery today. Because none of this is about right and wrong, it's brown people furious that white people are richer than them and them demanding a cut.
Saliva I think I've already established that you can't read 🥱
 

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What debate? A debate would be you responding to my arguments. Instead, you ignore everything I say and call me a "bigot"

You claim that africans are being attacked in australia, and when I point out that its africans doing the attacking, you lose your mind and call me "racist"

You claim europeans are evil for slavery, but then I point out that muslims have a more extensive history of slavery than europeans that continues to this day, you call me a "bigot"

You claim that immigrants are smarter than white australians, and then you call me "racist" for disagreeing

You claim that Indians are more academically capable than white people, and when I point that Indians are one of the worst countries in the world academically, you call me "bigoted"

You're not debating, you're hysterically screeching about how much you hate white people and how much they owe you for being brown
Saliva if you want a proper "debate" according to your belief then stop messaging teens...Also debates are more than just two sides opposing each other; both must present statistics and facts to support their argument. You have literally just made statements this entire time.
 

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Saliva if you want a proper "debate" according to your belief then stop messaging teens...Also debates are more than just two sides opposing each other; both must present statistics and facts to support their argument. You have literally just made statements this entire time.
"Saliva" is crazy lmaoooooooo
 

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Alright, @SylviaB I just did my research and turns out the Islamic world did have a longer history of slavery than Europeans, which is definitely horrible. But keep in mind, in the time period between the 7th and 20th century, around 30 to 40 million people died or were affected by slavery and forced labour in the Islamic nations. Slavery in Europe lasted between the 15th and 19th centuries, but around 10 to 20 million were affected or killed in that period. So, the Europeans definitely went to a greater extent in that short period of time. Regardless, I agree with you that nobody speaks on or condemns slavery in the Islamic world.
 

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Also compare the incomes of an average Indian or Chinese long-term immigrant to an average person from an English-speaking country and you will see the difference.
 

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Nice to see some proper statistics coming around
Alright, @SylviaB I just did my research and turns out the Islamic world did have a longer history of slavery than Europeans, which is definitely horrible. But keep in mind, in the time period between the 7th and 20th century, around 30 to 40 million people died or were affected by slavery and forced labour in the Islamic nations. Slavery in Europe lasted between the 15th and 19th centuries, but around 10 to 20 million were affected or killed in that period. So, the Europeans definitely went to a greater extent in that short period of time. Regardless, I agree with you that nobody speaks on or condemns slavery in the Islamic world.
 

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